Papa Winchester

[moonlettuce]

So, I started off writing a rambling post about John Winchester and why so many authors seem to turn him into omg, worst parent ever. And then I deleted it, because it really was rather rambling and kind of made no sense.

I do, however, stick by the following sentiment:

I actually want to take every author who writes John like this and shake them while reminding them that John died for Dean. He walked into that deal, knowing full well he would be going to Hell and not expecting to get back out again, because he was unprepared to let Dean die.

I had enough of the show retconning John to be a terrible father/husband/person, I don't need the fandom to be doing it, as well.

And then I realise that I need to back away from the computer because we're actually talking about a fictional character, and I shouldn't be getting so riled up while muttering "Don't be dissing on John--" under my breath.

Maybe I'll just channel all the snark I'm feeling into writing John/Dean instead...

Comments

[dametokillfor.livejournal.com]

JOHN/DEAN IS WRONG AND FILTHY AND I AM DISGUSTED THAT YOU WOULD EVEN MENTION IT.

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I'm not fooling anybody.

But on topic, I personally don't think John was a bad guy. Sure he's not going to win any Parent of the Year awards, shit, he won't even get the 'World's Best Dad' mug but he's not a bad guy. He did what he did to protect those boys, everything he did was for the love of his family. Yes, he made some honking great mistakes but who the fuck doesn't? I love John Winchester, I will defend him to the death.

[moonlettuce.livejournal.com]

Oh, absolutely. John makes mistakes. In many ways, he makes really fucking epic mistakes. But he's human, and given the situation he finds himself in, I really think he does what he thinks is best at the time. In hindsight, should he have let it all go and not started hunting? Possibly. But let's admit it, once you know that sort of shit's out there, you really can't not know it anymore.

Also, you are totally right and should feel ashamed for even thinking of John/Dean. I mean, who wants to think of horrible vision that is Dean, looking up at John as he sinks to his knees, his hands reaching out for John's belt. And he not, shaking, he's not. It's just cold in the room; it's got nothing to do with the fact that he's wanted this for so long. Wanted this because this is the only man who held the darkness at bay, who didn't expect him to be anything else than Dean.

And he needs to know. He needs to know how John tastes, how he feels when his fingers are in Dean's hair and he's heavy on Dean's tongue. He needs to know because it's Dad, needs to know because it's John. And if Dean can't have anything else, then he's going to have this.