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http://www.gateworld.net/news/2006/08/istargate_sg-1i_cancelled_iatlan.shtml

Wow.

Although, part of me thinks I should feel worse about this than I actually do. I've been in the SG-1 fandom since the beginning. One of my fics is one something like the third update that ever happened at Area 52. I fell in love with this show. And then I fell out of love. I got fed up of what seemed like the constant Jack/Sam moments, I couldn't believe the guys who produced this show had said that they thought Daniel's arc was over when Sha're died, and yes, I thought RDA all but telephoned in his part from about season six onwards.

When Atlantis was announced I thought it would be terrible. And then I watched 'Rising' and found myself falling in love all over again. Unlike SG-1, I liked all the characters - each of their strengths and their flaws. I'd only watched the first episode of season nine of SG-1 when 'The Pegasus Project' was going to happen. So I mainlined season nine and the first two episodes of season ten. And I found myself doing something I didn't think would happen. I found myself liking the show again. I adore Ben Browder in this - even if I do think Mitchell should have been slapped for threatening the Chief Science Officer of Atlantis with oh-so-humorously deadly anaphylaxis.

This show has given me laughter, it's given me tears (sitting in [livejournal.com profile] temaris's flat watching 'Meridian'), and it's given me a lot of wonderful people who I've met through the fandom. (It's also given me batshit insane crazies, but I tend to avoid the Jack/Sam shippers *evil grin*) It's had its ups and downs, but I guess that's the same with all relationships - you take the bad with the good.

It's been ten years, which is a hell of a lot more than other shows got (WB, I'm looking at you, you fuckers). We got some good times and some good fic (telepathic beagles notwithstanding). Maybe it's time to raise the glass and say "cheers".

Date: 2006-08-21 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
It's really odd, I feel as though I ought to be upset about this, but I'm not. After all, the show that just got cancelled (assuming the rumours are true, and the bloody-minded way in which it's been done would seem to support that), isn't the show either of us fell for back in the late 1990's, is it?

That, and everything good that goes with it, they can't cancel. ;)

Date: 2006-08-22 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
That's more than true. I think that show died somewhere around 2001. Although I have been enjoying the new team dynamic. I like Mitchell, and I like Vala. I adore Vala, in fact *g*

Date: 2006-08-22 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
I'm only left wondering just how much of their canon I'm going to have to gleefully ignore, given the fact that they've had half a season's warning of cancellation. I wouldn't put anything past the bastards, except that they blew their RDA appearances so the gateroom wedding for Sammypoos is unlikely, but a permanent death for Daniel is still a possibility.

Still, once they've finished buggering about with the show, it's ours for keeps. And I keep telling myself, no more live fandoms ever! ;)

Date: 2006-08-22 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
*g* Exactly. Once it's over we can write the future how we want to see it ;D

(Although, part of me still has this awful feeling they'll do a Jack/Sam ending. Of course, they may do a DAniel/Teal'c ending, as well *g*)

Date: 2006-08-22 05:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mandragora1.livejournal.com
I know how you feel about seasons 9 and 10 (so far) because that's pretty much how I feel. RDA just wasn't interested from season 6 onwards and although it was great to have Daniel back in season 7, RDA's flat performance left me unenthralled. Not enough to stop watching, but just not as keen.

Then season 9 and BB. As a huge Farscape fan I was pleased to see him, of course, but I also enjoyed the new casting (okay, not Landry, I still can't warm to him), and I like Vala, damn it, and it's not just because she's played by CB, ditto Cameron and BB.

Oh well, there's still hope according to Cooper.

Date: 2006-08-22 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
I find myself liking the Cam-Daniel-Teal'c-Vala team dynamic more than did the original dynamic of the middle seasons. For some reason I just see RDA as coming off very wooden when he does these guest appearances.

Date: 2006-08-22 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temaris.livejournal.com
God, I'd forgotten that. Yeah. And then going to, was it SG 5 and seeing Shanks, and that damn vid, and the man -- and most of us, crying at the end of the con. Damn.

For me, as you and most of the old crowd know, that was the end of SG1.

Ten years is a good round number. A damn sight better than most -- and it's weathered them reasonably well, in the end. It's not sinking into the ground, wearing adult diapers and mumbling helplessly about the truth...

Date: 2006-08-22 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
Ah, Chris Carter, how we love thee *grin*

I see the campaigns that are starting to save SG-1, and on one hand I know where they're coming from. Hello, Angel. And on the other hand I think, "It's been ten years. You've had a hell of a lot more than a lot of fandoms did. Guys, just let it go gracefully."

And at least they get half a season to tie things up. Dude, Joss got three fucking episodes on Angel.

Date: 2006-08-22 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temaris.livejournal.com
*g*

I loved the sga newsletter today -- top entries: news: SG1 cancelled! . Second entry, communities: savesg1!

*headdesk*

When I think of what actually happened when the fans got a sixth season of Highlander, and a fourth season of Sentinel, and a third season of Forever Knight, the fifth season of B5 after JMS had actually managed to wrap it up in half a season... I can't help wondering whether fan campaigns are such a good idea...

Date: 2006-08-22 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
I know. So many of them scream "Oh shit, they renewed us. Fuck, we have nothing written. Write, people, write anything!"

Date: 2006-08-22 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temaris.livejournal.com
FK had the added bonus of: and make sure they can't ever do this to us again!

Date: 2006-08-22 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
*snerk* It was a total, "You bastards! I'll teach you to renew us when we didn't want it!"

Date: 2006-08-22 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
The writing's been on the wall for this cancellation for a while, to the point where I really wasn't surprised at all. They got their 200th episode, their record-breaking 10th season, and if there's ever been anyone TIIC have given a damn about it wasn't the fans...

As for campaigns, I'm somewhat ambivalent about anyone running one this time around. Possibly hypocritical, but I know how much hard work is involved - we were lucky, we got to kick MGM around and nobody expected it, but I'm just not sure the will is really there from a significant enough portion of the fandom this time around. Because the way the show has gone over the last couple of seasons has lost the fandom some of the people who would have been the most persistent and annoying campaign members known to humanity.

If I thought the people making the show (not the actors, the Boys at Bridge) really gave a damn, perhaps I'd feel differently. But they seemed to stop giving a damn when they threw out the series bible at the end of season 3 and I remember how they've behaved subsequently, all of which means I have no love for any of them.

Date: 2006-08-22 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
It seems to be very much the old guard (and part of me can't believe I've just used that term ;) that is saying "just let it go," and the newer fans being all gung-ho for the campaigns. There's a difference between killing something off early (Angel, Firefly) and going, "We've told all the stories we want to tell, so now it's time for the end." I seriously don't think SG-1 falls into the former. (Even if I think the latter is actually more of a "We pretty much stopped caring about four seasons ago, we just didn't want to lose the paypacket.")

Date: 2006-08-22 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graculus.livejournal.com
It seems to be very much the old guard (and part of me can't believe I've just used that term ;) that is saying "just let it go," and the newer fans being all gung-ho for the campaigns.

My attitude is 'if people want to write, let them get on with it', because that's always been my attitude even if what they're writing for is something I think is idiotic. SG-1 hasn't been Brad and RCC's new shiny for longer than I care to think about and I think it has been about job security more than advancing the show. Frankly, I think they'd pretty much told all the stories they wanted to tell round about season 5, barring the ascension thing...

Personally, I'm waiting on the 'omg, will the fandom survive???' panicky posts to start appearing at some point... ;)

Date: 2006-08-22 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xandutch.livejournal.com
I feel a bit weird. Where I had gotten the recent impression that this show was like the energizer bunny of scifi, and it would be interesting to see exactly how long it could keep going. And right at the point where I was starting to get a bit more serious about the fandom as well. (Talking SG1 here, Atlantis is a done deal.)

On the other hand, I won't need to spend much more to get my recently started collection complete. Count your blessings, I guess.

Date: 2006-08-22 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlettuce.livejournal.com
Atlantis is a done deal

With us on your flist, there really wasn't any choice in that ;)

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